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« on: February 27, 2010, 03:37:52 AM »

Heard both 8.5 and 8.8. Near Concepcione
Apparently nearly the same epicenter as their record huge 1960 quake.

CNN has some talking heads while they relay Chilean TV news video. Wreckage all over. Power loss. No idea of the true scope of it.
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2010, 04:00:27 AM »

An entire swarm of quakes in the last day.  http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/290_-35.php

The big one - http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010tfan.php

8.8 - that's fucking HUGE !
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2010, 06:18:19 AM »

Yes, that's huge, but you're going to see the difference between a country that is prepared for earthquakes (Chile) and one that isn't (Haiti).
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2010, 07:04:42 AM »

Heads up, West Coast and Hawaii! 

There's going to be massive damage even in reinforced buildings.
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2010, 08:06:37 AM »


I can't even imagine.
I *think* we were on CNN and they were talking to a woman there, she said the shaking lasted three minutes.
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2010, 08:28:07 AM »

Hawaii is reporting huge waves. 
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2010, 08:35:59 AM »

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TSUNAMI MESSAGE NUMBER   9
NWS PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER EWA BEACH HI
347 AM HST SAT FEB 27 2010

TO - CIVIL DEFENSE IN THE STATE OF HAWAII

SUBJECT - TSUNAMI WARNING SUPPLEMENT

A TSUNAMI WARNING CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR THE STATE OF HAWAII.

AN EARTHQUAKE HAS OCCURRED WITH THESE PRELIMINARY PARAMETERS

   ORIGIN TIME - 0834 PM HST 26 FEB 2010
   COORDINATES - 36.1 SOUTH   72.6 WEST
   LOCATION    - NEAR COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE
   MAGNITUDE   - 8.8  MOMENT

MEASUREMENTS OR REPORTS OF TSUNAMI WAVE ACTIVITY

 GAUGE LOCATION        LAT   LON    TIME        AMPL         PER
 -------------------  ----- ------  -----  ---------------  -----
 EASTER CL            27.2S 109.5W  1205Z   0.35M /  1.1FT  52MIN
 ANCUD CL             41.9S  73.8W  0838Z   0.62M /  2.0FT  84MIN
 CALLAO LA-PUNTA PE   12.1S  77.2W  1029Z   0.36M /  1.2FT  30MIN
 ARICA CL             18.5S  70.3W  1008Z   0.94M /  3.1FT  42MIN
 IQUIQUE CL           20.2S  70.1W  0907Z   0.28M /  0.9FT  68MIN
 ANTOFAGASTA CL       23.2S  70.4W  0941Z   0.49M /  1.6FT  52MIN
 DART LIMA 32412      18.0S  86.4W  0941Z   0.24M /  0.8FT  36MIN
 CALDERA CL           27.1S  70.8W  0843Z   0.45M /  1.5FT  20MIN
 TALCAHUANO CL        36.7S  73.4W  0653Z   2.34M /  7.7FT  88MIN
 COQUIMBO CL          30.0S  71.3W  0852Z   1.32M /  4.3FT  30MIN
 CORRAL CL            39.9S  73.4W  0739Z   0.90M /  2.9FT  16MIN
 SAN FELIX CL         26.3S  80.1W  0815Z   0.53M /  1.7FT  08MIN
 VALPARAISO CL        33.0S  71.6W  0708Z   1.29M /  4.2FT  20MIN

 LAT  - LATITUDE (N-NORTH, S-SOUTH)
 LON  - LONGITUDE (E-EAST, W-WEST)
 TIME - TIME OF THE MEASUREMENT (Z IS UTC IS GREENWICH TIME)
 AMPL - TSUNAMI AMPLITUDE MEASURED RELATIVE TO NORMAL SEA LEVEL.
        IT IS ...NOT... CREST-TO-TROUGH WAVE HEIGHT.
        VALUES ARE GIVEN IN BOTH METERS(M) AND FEET(FT).
 PER  - PERIOD OF TIME IN MINUTES(MIN) FROM ONE WAVE TO THE NEXT.

EVALUATION

 A TSUNAMI HAS BEEN GENERATED THAT COULD CAUSE DAMAGE ALONG
 COASTLINES OF ALL ISLANDS IN THE STATE OF HAWAII. URGENT ACTION
 SHOULD BE TAKEN TO PROTECT LIVES AND PROPERTY.

 A TSUNAMI IS A SERIES OF LONG OCEAN WAVES. EACH INDIVIDUAL WAVE
 CREST CAN LAST 5 TO 15 MINUTES OR MORE AND EXTENSIVELY FLOOD
 COASTAL AREAS. THE DANGER CAN CONTINUE FOR MANY HOURS AFTER THE
 INITIAL WAVE AS SUBSEQUENT WAVES ARRIVE. TSUNAMI WAVE HEIGHTS
 CANNOT BE PREDICTED AND THE FIRST WAVE MAY NOT BE THE LARGEST.
 TSUNAMI WAVES EFFICIENTLY WRAP AROUND ISLANDS. ALL SHORES ARE AT
 RISK NO MATTER WHICH DIRECTION THEY FACE. THE TROUGH OF A TSUNAMI
 WAVE MAY TEMPORARILY EXPOSE THE SEAFLOOR BUT THE AREA WILL
 QUICKLY FLOOD AGAIN. EXTREMELY STRONG AND UNUSUAL NEARSHORE
 CURRENTS CAN ACCOMPANY A TSUNAMI. DEBRIS PICKED UP AND CARRIED
 BY A TSUNAMI AMPLIFIES ITS DESTRUCTIVE POWER. SIMULTANEOUS HIGH
 TIDES OR HIGH SURF CAN SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE TSUNAMI HAZARD.

 THE ESTIMATED ARRIVAL TIME IN HAWAII OF THE FIRST TSUNAMI WAVE IS

                     1119 AM HST SAT 27 FEB 2010

MESSAGES WILL BE ISSUED HOURLY OR SOONER AS CONDITIONS WARRANT.

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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2010, 08:48:48 AM »

Civil defense sirens will sound at 6 am local in Hawai'i to wake people up with enough time to evacuate to higher ground.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2010, 09:55:11 AM »

    4 in. of snow is not looking too fucking bad at the moment [!!!!!]

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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2010, 09:57:04 AM »

http://www.starbulletin.com/

when i posted this, EVERY item "above the fold" of that page was preparation/warning/evac. related ...
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2010, 09:57:23 AM »

Fox not covering it as well as CNN.

Rural highway bridges over rivers collapsed, and more alarming, in Santiago de Chile, about 200 miles from the epicenter, some facade and glass damage on buildings, and what appear to be highway overpasses collapsed, some of which had cars on them.  This was Santiago Centro, damage probablly worse in the poorer suburbs.



The Chileans (I've known a few) are of Italian, Spanish, German and French stock, just enough indigenous people to make pizco (awesome in a pizco sour) popular, and they are generally free market and hard working, more so than anywhere else in South America I can thing of, and they should bounce back quicker than Haiti.

The tsunami has already devastated local Chilean coastal villages, and the sirens should be going off about now in Hawaii, to give people about 5 hours to wake up and head inland.
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2010, 10:03:28 AM »

This is an 8.8 as compared to the 8.5 in 1960



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The 1960 Tsunami, Hilo
Thirty-four years ago, on May 23, 1960, a tsunami destroyed much of downtown Hilo. Tsunami, or seismic sea waves, are generated in several ways, including by large submarine explosive eruptions, by landslides where rock slides into or beneath the sea surface, and by large earthquakes that displace rocks below sea level. The waves generated spread outward in all directions and travel across the oceans at speeds between 425 and 500 miles per hour. Most tsunami that cause widespread damage are produced by large earthquakes that cause fault movements of the sea floor, including the one in 1960. These giant waves wreak their havoc first near to, and then far from, the site of the original earthquake.

The earthquake that caused the 1960 tsunami occurred off the west coast of South America and had a magnitude between 8.25 and 8.5. The waves reached the Hawaiian Islands in about 15 hours. This tsunami caused little damage elsewhere in the islands, but the Hilo Bay area was hard hit. Sixty-one people lost their lives and about 540 homes and businesses were destroyed or severely damaged. The wave heights in Hilo Bay reached 35 feet compared to only 3-17 feet elsewhere. The water washed as far inland as Kilauea Avenue/Keawe Street through the entire present downtown area and to Kekuanaoa Street near Kilauea Avenue.



http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/1994/94_05_20.html
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2010, 10:06:16 AM »

    a large clock at an oceanside park in Hilo remains stopped at 0-dark-thirty-whatever it was when the wave hit -- and shall always remain at that time as a tribute ...
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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2010, 10:08:51 AM »

I live in southern orange county, CA - just drove down to the local beach to see if I could see my first tsunami...  No luck.  

But there was a very strong northern current.  No way I'd get in that water today.  (Besides, its raining)
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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2010, 10:09:58 AM »

Fox not covering it as well as CNN.

Rural highway bridges over rivers collapsed, and more alarming, in Santiago de Chile, about 200 miles from the epicenter, some facade and glass damage on buildings, and what appear to be highway overpasses collapsed, some of which had cars on them.  This was Santiago Centro, damage probablly worse in the poorer suburbs.



The Chileans (I've known a few) are of Italian, Spanish, German and French stock, just enough indigenous people to make pizco (awesome in a pizco sour) popular, and they are generally free market and hard working, more so than anywhere else in South America I can thing of, and they should bounce back quicker than Haiti.

The tsunami has already devastated local Chilean coastal villages, and the sirens should be going off about now in Hawaii, to give people about 5 hours to wake up and head inland.
Fox back to all quake all the time.
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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2010, 10:38:34 AM »

Quake in Argentina. Wonder if it's related, tectonic wise.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010tfc3.php

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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2010, 11:20:35 AM »

There's been a whole swarm in the last1-2 days, so yes, a bunch of faults are popping off.
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2010, 11:31:29 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2010, 11:59:25 AM »

Mike might now know this one.  The San Francisco quake supposedly generated displacement on sections of the fault almost 8 meters (~ 25 feet).  A quake that supposedly was an order of magnitude lower.

Now, comparing movement on slip faults and subduction faults may be flawed.  But earthquakes of this magnitude in the same area every 50 years, does this imply a subduction rate of almost (or perhaps in excess of) 6 inches a year?
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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2010, 12:15:50 PM »

6"/year would be damned fast for two colliding plates.  6 cm, maybe.  But 6" is possible.
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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2010, 12:18:54 PM »

6"/year would be damned fast for two colliding plates.  6 cm, maybe.  But 6" is possible.

8.5 and greater quakes every 50 years apparently on the same fault segment?  That is impressive.
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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2010, 12:23:42 PM »

San Juan Island off the coast of Chile reportedly hit by 40m - 120' - high wave.

Large tsunami wave expected at Hawaii shortly after 1100 local. GMT-10. Less than 3hrs from now.



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BULLETIN
TSUNAMI MESSAGE NUMBER  11
NWS PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER EWA BEACH HI
549 AM HST SAT FEB 27 2010

TO - CIVIL DEFENSE IN THE STATE OF HAWAII

SUBJECT - TSUNAMI WARNING SUPPLEMENT

A TSUNAMI WARNING CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR THE STATE OF HAWAII.

AN EARTHQUAKE HAS OCCURRED WITH THESE PRELIMINARY PARAMETERS

   ORIGIN TIME - 0834 PM HST 26 FEB 2010
   COORDINATES - 36.1 SOUTH   72.6 WEST
   LOCATION    - NEAR COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE
   MAGNITUDE   - 8.8  MOMENT
   MAGNITUDE   - 8.4  RICHTER (MS)

MEASUREMENTS OR REPORTS OF TSUNAMI WAVE ACTIVITY

 GAUGE LOCATION        LAT   LON    TIME        AMPL         PER
 ––––––––––––––––––-  ––––- ––––––  ––––-  ––––––––––––––-  ––––-
 QUEPOS CR             0.0N   9.4E  1416Z   0.24M /  0.8FT  52MIN
 BALTRA GALAPAGS EC    0.4S  90.3W  1452Z   0.35M /  1.2FT  14MIN
 DART MARQUESAS 5140   8.5S 125.0W  1519Z   0.28M /  0.9FT  48MIN
 EASTER CL            27.2S 109.5W  1205Z   0.35M /  1.1FT  52MIN
 ANCUD CL             41.9S  73.8W  0838Z   0.62M /  2.0FT  84MIN
 CALLAO LA-PUNTA PE   12.1S  77.2W  1029Z   0.36M /  1.2FT  30MIN
 ARICA CL             18.5S  70.3W  1008Z   0.94M /  3.1FT  42MIN
 IQUIQUE CL           20.2S  70.1W  0907Z   0.28M /  0.9FT  68MIN
 ANTOFAGASTA CL       23.2S  70.4W  0941Z   0.49M /  1.6FT  52MIN
 CALDERA CL           27.1S  70.8W  0843Z   0.45M /  1.5FT  20MIN
 TALCAHUANO CL        36.7S  73.4W  0653Z   2.34M /  7.7FT  88MIN
 COQUIMBO CL          30.0S  71.3W  0852Z   1.32M /  4.3FT  30MIN
 CORRAL CL            39.9S  73.4W  0739Z   0.90M /  2.9FT  16MIN
 SAN FELIX CL         26.3S  80.1W  0815Z   0.53M /  1.7FT  08MIN
 VALPARAISO CL        33.0S  71.6W  0708Z   1.29M /  4.2FT  20MIN

 LAT  - LATITUDE (N-NORTH, S-SOUTH)
 LON  - LONGITUDE (E-EAST, W-WEST)
 TIME - TIME OF THE MEASUREMENT (Z IS UTC IS GREENWICH TIME)
 AMPL - TSUNAMI AMPLITUDE MEASURED RELATIVE TO NORMAL SEA LEVEL.
        IT IS ...NOT... CREST-TO-TROUGH WAVE HEIGHT.
        VALUES ARE GIVEN IN BOTH METERS(M) AND FEET(FT).
 PER  - PERIOD OF TIME IN MINUTES(MIN) FROM ONE WAVE TO THE NEXT.

EVALUATION

 A TSUNAMI HAS BEEN GENERATED THAT COULD CAUSE DAMAGE ALONG
 COASTLINES OF ALL ISLANDS IN THE STATE OF HAWAII. URGENT ACTION
 SHOULD BE TAKEN TO PROTECT LIVES AND PROPERTY.

 A TSUNAMI IS A SERIES OF LONG OCEAN WAVES. EACH INDIVIDUAL WAVE
 CREST CAN LAST 5 TO 15 MINUTES OR MORE AND EXTENSIVELY FLOOD
 COASTAL AREAS. THE DANGER CAN CONTINUE FOR MANY HOURS AFTER THE
 INITIAL WAVE AS SUBSEQUENT WAVES ARRIVE. TSUNAMI WAVE HEIGHTS
 CANNOT BE PREDICTED AND THE FIRST WAVE MAY NOT BE THE LARGEST.
 TSUNAMI WAVES EFFICIENTLY WRAP AROUND ISLANDS. ALL SHORES ARE AT
 RISK NO MATTER WHICH DIRECTION THEY FACE. THE TROUGH OF A TSUNAMI
 WAVE MAY TEMPORARILY EXPOSE THE SEAFLOOR BUT THE AREA WILL
 QUICKLY FLOOD AGAIN. EXTREMELY STRONG AND UNUSUAL NEARSHORE
 CURRENTS CAN ACCOMPANY A TSUNAMI. DEBRIS PICKED UP AND CARRIED
 BY A TSUNAMI AMPLIFIES ITS DESTRUCTIVE POWER. SIMULTANEOUS HIGH
 TIDES OR HIGH SURF CAN SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE TSUNAMI HAZARD.

 THE ESTIMATED ARRIVAL TIME IN HAWAII OF THE FIRST TSUNAMI WAVE IS

                     1119 AM HST SAT 27 FEB 2010

MESSAGES WILL BE ISSUED HOURLY OR SOONER AS CONDITIONS WARRANT.
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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2010, 12:27:41 PM »

598 residents on San Juan per Wiki.
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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2010, 12:29:46 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_Valdivia_earthquake


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The 1960 Valdivia earthquake or Great Chilean Earthquake (Spanish: Gran terremoto de Valdivia) of 22 May 1960 is to date the most powerful earthquake ever recorded, rating 9.5 on the moment magnitude scale.[1] It occurred in the afternoon (19:11 GMT, 14:11 local time) and its resulting tsunami affected southern Chile, Hawaii, Japan, the Philippines, eastern New Zealand, southeast Australia, and the Aleutian Islands in Alaska.

The epicenter was near Caρete (see map) some 900 km (435 miles) south of Santiago, although Valdivia, Chile was the most affected city. It caused localised tsunamis that severely battered the Chilean coast, with waves up to 25 meters (82 ft). The main tsunami raced across the Pacific Ocean and devastated Hilo, Hawaii. Waves as high as 10.7 metres (35 ft) were recorded 10,000 kilometres (6,000 miles) from the epicenter, and as far away as Japan and the Philippines.

The death toll and monetary losses arising from such a widespread disaster can never be precisely known. Various estimates of the total number of fatalities from the earthquake and tsunamis have been published, with the USGS citing studies with figures of 2231, 3000, or 5700 killed,[2] and another source uses an estimate of 6000 dead.[3] Different sources have estimated the monetary cost ranged from 400 million to 800 million US dollars[2] (or 2.8 to 5.5 billion in 2007 dollars, adjusted for inflation.)
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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2010, 12:36:40 PM »

streaming vid link from Hawaii Ch2

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